Early Gambit Jitters

[Travis]

With such a big update, it was probably too much to hope that there would be no issues. With the number of leagues we support, the fact that we simulate thousands of games a night, and all of the user variables that come into play, it would have been too much to ask for. That fact that we made it to day 6 without an issue means that we made it through 10,500 simulated games before a problem came up. We ran tens of thousands of sims on the test sever, and we thought we had gotten all of the issues ironed out.

As some of you I'm sure noticed, there were duplicate sim entries for Tier A Red Division. We've since gotten those cleaned up and the win-loss records straightened out. We'll be poring over the new code for the changes and running more sims on the test sever to try and replicate and solve the problem. In the meantime, if you notice any funny business with pitcher substitutions like "phantom" pitchers taking the mound, please let us know here.

As always, thanks for your continued support.

[Canonico]

Well done, and this was/is bound to happen, even running so many simulations on the test server its never quite the same when it goes live.

Either way thanks for the quick fix, and if i catch some crazy bugs running around ill inform.

[Canonico]

Forgot to mention, when you say "Phantom" pitchers, you mean pitchers that dont belong on the team and appear on the box score has such?

[sendekyo]

Forgot to mention, when you say "Phantom" pitchers, you mean pitchers that dont belong on the team and appear on the box score has such?

I have seen situations in the past where a pitcher was either relieved by himself or by no one. I think he may be referencing those.

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[Travis]

We think that somehow there's a possibility of a pitcher being replaced with a blank entry. An indication that this has happened should be visible in the play by play results, and would look something like: P replaces P John Smith. Since the the phantom pitcher has no name, it just looks like "P" is replacing the pitcher on the mound.

Unfortunately, a debugging tool I was using for the gamecast recordings stopped the problem sims from being recorded to the database (so the phantom pitcher issue may have existed before season 12, but not after), so it's impossible for us to know what exact scenario caused the issue. So I've disabled that check, and if it occurs again, the phantom pitcher should be recorded into the series data. Given that it took 10,500 games for it to come up, it may not resurface again for a while, but we believe the telltale sign of it occurring will be a phantom pitcher substitution.

[Canonico]

Ok got it, ill keep an extra alert eye on the play by play to check for possible P subtituing a real pitcher. Since im already keeping my eyes open to track down Holds and Saves to a Spreadsheet for the Baseball Academy team im sure if it occurs ill catch it.

[pzacher68]

I am really trying to resist the urge for a "Pitcher relieving himself" joke....

[callmefranchise]

I am really trying to resist the urge for a "Pitcher relieving himself" joke....

Just hold it . . . for a little bit longer.

-- Stephen

[sendekyo]

I am really trying to resist the urge for a "Pitcher relieving himself" joke....

Yeah, but it's been done. Closing Pitcher relieving himself (not in THAT way...)

[Canonico]

Question: did the double simulation on the Tier A Red division affected the players involved stats, and also the League Leaders Board?

I ask because i noticed one of the Baseball Academy Pitcher who had a 0.00 ERA, now has 1.44, Ralph Bunga. And he did not surrender any run in yesterday games, but in the double simulation he did.

I am 99.9% sure his ERA was Zero thats why im inquiring.

[Canonico]

Ralph Bunga. And he did not surrender any run in yesterday games, but in the double simulation he did.

I am 99.9% sure his ERA was Zero thats why im inquiring.

I am now 100% sure that his ERA should be 0.00 and not 1.44, going through Ralph Bunga History you can see he as not surrender any runs thus far. All his stats are influenced by the double simulation.

So im assuming that the double simulation stats was added to every player in the Red Division on Tier A?

[Brewnoe]

No issues?
I think 10,500 games without a save or a blown save being recorded is a problem ...

[spotmonkey]

No issues?
I think 10,500 games without a save or a blown save being recorded is a problem ...

This is a known bug that is being worked on. We hope to resolve it sooner than later. We are 99.99% sure this is only effecting the statistics and not the actual game play.

[Canonico]

This is a known bug that is being worked on. We hope to resolve it sooner than later. We are 99.99% sure this is only effecting the statistics and not the actual game play.

Poor choice of words, when you say "only effecting the statistics", this is a baseball mmorpg, stats should be at the most important, if not whats the point on coming here if not to see how your player did, and hes doing when compared to the other players? Its not like you come to 2oR to see the dots (based on well known game) running the bases and hitting line drives.

Just like me posting the Tier A stats for the Red division are incorrect do to the double simulation that occur, this will affect who is in the league leaders page making it extremely disapointing to have a entire season where the statistics will be adultered.

Also how hard would it be for developers to recognise a bug and say they are aware and trying to fix it. Jezz its not like ignoring it makes it go away. I understand that its a small crew working but leaving users with not even a "We know the bug exists and we are working to fix it", its a bad politic imo.

Sorry if this seems adress to you but its not, its just my rant on how somethings get ignored.

[Peter Jahn]

I have to go d'accord with canonico. Statistics are the soul of a baseball-rpg for me.

[spotmonkey]

I feel your pain. I'm a stat fanatic also and want to see this resolved ASAP. This is a major issue for Travis, Walter and the other mods also. I was replying initially to let you know that we are working on it and that this isn't being ignored. I wish I could say this will be fixed tonight, but I can't.

Good Luck this season and we will provide updates as soon as we have them.

Thanks,
Spotmonkey

[Peter Jahn]

thx for your effort and all admins and mods!